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China starts using Ipv9

Posted on Tuesday, July 06 2004 @ 02:41:36 CEST by


China's Internet technology Ipv9,which being compatible with IPv4 and IPv6,has been formally adapted and popularized into the civil and commercial sector.

Stated at the Industrialization & Development Seminar held at Zhejiang University, its founder Xie Jianping said that the Ipv9 protocol is based on a ten-digit computing method, and it has its own address protocol, nameplate protocol, transitional protocol, and digital domain name regulations and standards, CRIENGLISH.com reported Sunday.

Along with being compatible with IPv4 and IPv6, IPv9 can also realize logistic separations between them and safely control them.

Source: Xinhua


 






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How about no - does NO work for China?
by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 06 2004 @ 03:24:01 CEST
Perhaps CHINA should be put in charge of IANA. It seems they have managed to skip IPv6 - and the yet to be developed IPv7 and v8 all the way up to IPv9. WAY TO GO CHINA!!!
Seriously - from attmepting to fracture 802.11 onward, someone needs to club these guys manically with a big WTO stick. This is BS - what's next, their liberalization of IP from any company they can steal it from. . OOPS too late for that too!



  • Reply by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 06 2004 @ 03:26:12 CEST

    (IP - Intelectual Property -as in trade secrets, not Internet Protocol)


  • Reply by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 06 2004 @ 07:29:32 CEST

    numnuts - read RFC1606 (note the date). Please learn a little history about the Internet and TCP/IP before you rant like a lunatic. Also, please note that the people that created the Internet and TCP/IP had (and still do) a sense of humor just like most normal individuals.


for your guys, treat it as an april 01
by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 06 2004 @ 07:11:12 CEST
First, I am a Chinese.

Second, "THIS" IPV9 sucks and will not go any further instead of a joke. I bet that no people will talk about the implementation of IPV9 two years from now

Third, the Chinese are proud of the "creation"?

NO! I can tell you that after I surfed several major Chinese tech websites. 90 percent of people believe it just a huge joke and are shame of this kind of stupid report.

- Why this kind of report comes?

People suspect the small lab want to cheat some money from "research budget" from government-back fund, some dirty guys get that kind of money for surviving take advantage of the corruption of government officers.

- They even do NOT know how to write a HTML code

When we look into that web address of the "IPV9" company who owns the "IP", when you check their webpage source code, they even do not know how to write a good HTML code or they even have no money to hire a good web designer to write the code. How can you believe they could write a "new generation communication protocol"?

»www.91num.net/index1.htm

- The company address is one room in a building somewhere, probably just in his own home/office. It is not a "university lab" or "national-class lab". Even so, most of this kind of lab sucks government money and produces nothing really useful. For example, some years ago a guy boasted he could use water to drive car engine and so on - our poor middle-east countries will collapse if it is true.

- Look the "IP creator" background and the team

The "creator" major is nor math neither computer/telecom.....whatever you believe ir not his major is chemistry - LOL. And so-called lab is under a small office of a local chemistry company. That is the funniest thing I found out. The "team" found in 2001 and now has only 29 people...you even can reach the creator by his personal phone number by 021-6290-6873. You try it.....if you want to know what the IPV9 is.

- IPV9 Document?

So far no any available documents on the IPV9...even a "IPV9 for dummies". How could a entire "new generation protocol" was developed without any documentation? miracle –

- Why IPv9? My perspective..^_^

The only reason I could find "9" in Chinese means "long life" and "forever", instead, "4" somehow means "dead" because of same pronunciation. Using "good" to replace "bad" in term of meaning, that is the only reason I could find so far ^_^

CONCLUSION:

IT IS JUST A JOKE, or **someone** believe it is NOT but finally will find out IT IS JUST A JOKE. I am proud of my country, but absolutely not our IPV99999.

Believe me, it won’t work.

Take it easy.



All I want to tell you guys is, do NOT spend your valuable time to find out what the IPV9 is.

It is simply a joke, nothing else. I gurantee that.

some factors:

- up to 95% chinese tech guys do not believe, so do I

- No any documents available except the name of "IPV9"

- How it works? It won't work so there is no answer

- The only selling point is "self-developed protocol" and "own IP".

- It is a money cheating game

a. the reporter boasts it - so he get pay

b. the "creator" get notice - so he gained BIG fund for his new never-work protocol

c. stupid non-tech guys may be really proud of it, and the "creator" gain more noise

d. more reporters comes because of the BIG noise - go step a., loop start

- for your guys, treat it as an april 01 story




  • Reply by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 06 2004 @ 07:24:18 CEST

    Interesting read. Your copmments are very interesting frm the chinese perspective.
    My immedaiate thought followingy the announcement was of the anmount of work that would have gone into this i.e tea parties, documentation, arguments, more tea parties and more documentation.
    but if your right it was the a case of the old shell be right approach which to be honest Im suporsed by! This shatters my stereotypical perception of Chinese folk. Many of my are good Chinese friends are painstakingly thorough so like I said I am suporsed to read your comments that it was a kind of underground lab with a few bits and peices and hey presto we have ipv9!!!
    If that is the case..good for them!!
    Im happy either way..ipv4 is getting long in the ol tooth. What happend to Internet2???

    Nevermind Im happy with my 2400 Baud modem!!


  • Reply by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 06 2004 @ 13:21:59 CEST

    Hi,

    Thanks for your reply. I appreciate it, it makes the story a lot more comprehensive.


    • Reply by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 06 2004 @ 16:02:09 CEST

      As a Chinese, I think I have responsibilties to tell you that so-called "large-scale IPv9 deployment in China" is a hoax and lie, nothing is really under progressing except for several cripple "IPv9" router in the creator's home lab.

      I totally have no idea why this kind of stupid report was posted by a large local news agent like Xinhua.net. It also is a shame for thousands of other chinese websites simply copied the same shit everywhere without using their minds. If there is something should be blamed on, the first is the morality of some journalists, the second, the lack-confidence-mind of some people (wo wo! we are so proud of having our own IP! )

      Please read today news in the Register:

      http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/07/06/ipv9_hype_dismissed/

      There is NONSENSE to discuss IPv9 itself, forget about it and get a beer.



  • Reply by Anonymous on Sunday, December 02 2007 @ 10:06:24 CET

    That is why you are a loser


"large-scale IPv9 deployment in China" is a hoax and lie
by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 06 2004 @ 16:05:24 CEST
As a Chinese, I think I have responsibilties to tell you that so-called "large-scale IPv9 deployment in China" is a hoax and lie, nothing is really under progressing except for several cripple "IPv9" router in the creator's home lab.

I totally have no idea why this kind of stupid report was posted by a large local news agent like Xinhua.net. It also is a shame for thousands of other chinese websites simply copied the same shit everywhere without using their minds. If there is something should be blamed on, the first is the morality of some journalists, the second, the lack-confidence-mind of some people (wo wo! we are so proud of having our own IP! )

Please read today news in the Register:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/07/06/ipv9_hype_dismissed/

There is NONSENSE to discuss IPv9 itself, forget about it and get a beer.



http://www.IPv9.info
by Anonymous on Thursday, July 15 2004 @ 00:47:09 CEST
http://www.IPv9.info



  • Reply by Anonymous on Thursday, July 15 2004 @ 00:48:01 CEST

    Your IPv8 packets appear to contain the Version Number 0100.0, which is 4.0 or 8 (01000) depending on whether you consider the binary point. IPv9 packets contain the Version Number 0100.1, which is 4.5 or 9 (01001).

    The extra Version Number Bit (the 49th Bit) is located directly after the 16 Identification Field bits. The first 49 bits in the packet form a mini-header, with 4 version bits at the start and 1 version bit at the end. IPv8 ends the mini-header with a 0 and IPv9 ends it with a 1. IPv4 does not have the 49th bit, called the Hawaii Bit.

    Modern InterNAT devices properly set the IPv9 Version Number and take advantage of the 11 Bi-Directional Extended Address Bits in the deprecated TOS Field and the re-engineered Identification Field. The TOS Field is split into two 4-bit fields and the Identification Field is re-worked into two 7-bit fields with a 2-bit field for classic identification functionality. The 4-bits and 7-bits combine to provide 11 extended address bits for both the source and destination, end-to-end, agents.

    Layer 8 and Layer 9 discussions sometimes refer to IPv8 as AM and IPv9 as FM. You appear to only have access to the AM net. There is another entire net experience, people have been enjoying for years. With a modern InterNAT system, you can access both the AM and FM InterNAT services. Voice, Video and Vibration are show-cased on the InterNAT, along with 3D3V real-time cyberspace experiences.


Re: China starts using Ipv9
by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 16 2005 @ 23:52:57 CET
Seems it makes sense.

If we look back how OSI defines NSAP address intended to be used in CLNP protocol (part of OSI protocol stacks), the maximum length of address is 20 bytes (160 bit), and this addressing scheme was standardized in 80's and were and still being used in some systems.

After 20 years, a lot of changes in the internetworking. Just imagine, how many cellphones are deployed around the world? Now we have to count the number of phones, appliances. computers, PDAs. and other embedded systems. It might have reached billions of them.
If people want to assign a unique IP address for each one of these, that seems make sense to get a 'very-large IP adddress'ing'



 

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