Xbox 360 console Review

• Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 14:11 CEST
  
  That was very insightful...
  

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• Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 14:11 CEST
  
  That's funny.....Why should the new consoles be any different? XBox 360 will still own their competitors. Better Graphics, more power, better games. How can you beat that?
  

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  • Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 14:49 CEST
    
    I still think that the Nintendo GameCube has better game than the X-box although when the "Conquers Bad Fur Day" comes out for the X-box i will be buying mainly for that game I do not have an X-box but have played "Halo 2" and i think that is also over rated all and all i still believe that the GameCube is better than the X-box
    though the new tech sones lovely
    Seige
    

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• Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 14:12 CEST
  
  you are an idiot
  

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• Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 14:14 CEST
  
  fan boys - they ruin productive discussions
  

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  • Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 14:19 CEST
    
    holler bitches
    

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  • Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 14:26 CEST
    
    and calling him a fan boy was also benifiting the productive discussion right? ass.
    

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• Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 14:38 CEST
  
  Is that because you like playing mario paint so much still....please it will be the same results....ps3 then xbox then the ever lame nintendo console with its games for 3 year olds
  

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  • Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 15:13 CEST
    
    Nintendo builds games with high quality game play and tries new ideas on game play out. For the most part the other systems apply to the lowest denominator and all you end up with is sex and violence with the odd sports game. But I can not remember the last time PS or MS thought outside the box . Lets look at GTA games, they claim these games are great because you can do anything you want to and this is true as long as what you want to do would give you a life sentence in the real world. Then lets look at Hailo, anyone that has played the first Bond game for the Nintendo 64 would know that almost every first person shooter has been a rehash of this game. As far as games for only 3 year olds please try resident evil or thirteen and there are plenty more titles than just these 2. What do you say to that?
    

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    • Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 15:20 CEST
      
      For starters you are delusional. And uneducated. There are many many gamy for all consoles and they are not all the same. No one copied the Bond game ...if anything it and every game like it copied DOOM 3D ....
      

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    • Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 16:17 CEST
      
      XIII wasn't just nintendo...it was on XBox too
      

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• Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 15:03 CEST
  
  LOL - oops wet myself.
  
  Nintendo a serious gaming console????
  
  The only thing the PS3 has going for it is its RISC based processor (I think RISC is the way all proccessors should go)
  
  The the XboX with 3 proccessors ***** slaps the PS3 back to cave wall paintings.
  
  

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  • Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 15:17 CEST
    
    Yes the XBO 360 has 3 processors but the PS3 has 8. But those eight must be used alot to help draw the graphics ... XBOX 360s custom chips do all the hard calculations and leave those 3 processors to hand things like AI and Physics ...
    

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    • Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 15:52 CEST
      
      the ps3 has ONE processor, running 8 cores. One procressor is still one processor.... I think Xbox 360 will prove the more capable box over time.
      

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  • Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 15:24 CEST
    
    They are both RISC you numb nuts. Both the Xbox 360 and PS3 use IBM for their processors. The only difference is how those processors are connected. IBM only creates RISC chips.
    
    Lastly, the Revolution will also be powered by an IBM RISC chip(s) so you should probably stop laughing now before you draw too much attention to yourself.
    
    Oh yeah... as for power, the plain truth and actual specs prove the PS3 to walk all over the 360 in terms of power. Why don't you do your homework before you post on a message board.
    

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  • Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 17:34 CEST
    
    (The the XboX with 3 proccessors ***** slaps the PS3 back to cave wall paintings.)
    
    Like yo mama got? Wait til the damned machines come out before U making stupid claims like that. By the way, it was fun ***** slapping her. Screamed and squealed like the litttle pig she was.
    

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• Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 16:57 CEST
  
  Super Mario Bros 3
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  Super Metroid
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  Ocarina of Time
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  Super Smash Bros Melee
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  PS3
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  Gamecube
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  N64
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  SNES
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  NES
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  Atari 2600
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  Paddleball
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  Xbox 360
  

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  • Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 17:04 CEST
    
    Actually, PS3 is more powerful than 360. Nvidia worked especially hard to provide the 1.8 TF of GPU speed and IBM used a 25G RAM system for the board. The PS3's Cell Processor uses floating point processors to deliver a much harder punch than 360's triple 3.2 processors.
    
    Here's an interesting fact: When 360 developers saw the PS3's capabilities, most of them decided to move over to Sony's crowd.
    

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    • Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 18:12 CEST
      
      Here's an interesting fact: When 360 developers saw the PS3's capabilities, most of them decided to move over to Sony's crowd.
      
      Thats total bull and if you believe that your nuts. Developers have contracts/licenses to produce games on certain platforms. They stay with whoever they bought the license from or have a contract with. Just because you wish or want something like this to happen doesn't mean it will (stop making it up).
      
      The fact is most games come out on most of the consoles with slight differences.
      
      
      

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• Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 14:45 CEST
  
  I would have to completely agree with that, the xbox 360 isn not that slow and the ps3 is tweaked a bit more but of course the price difference will probably be like 200 bucks. I think its finally time gamers can finally sit back and enjoy awesome graphics on a console that blow away most home pc's. I am a hardcore xbox nintendo fan but the ps3 visually looks amazing. If games really look as good as they showed in the sony conference about the ps3 then I will probably buy it for the games and the pure stunning visuals this machine produces. Xbox did beat ps2 orginally and thats why I wasn't a big fan of it, but looks like sony turned the tables.both systems have some great games coming out for them and I look forward to playing them.
  

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• Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 14:47 CEST
  
  I agree with you. As an xbox and ps2 owner, I definitely think the xbox has the better capability - however ps2 owns with the games they offer. As for the next generation - the Xbox360, in my opinion, will pale in comparison to the ps3 (get out of here Nintendo Revolution). Some may say the 360 will be "slow" - which is wrong. It's going to be rediculously fast - but the ps3 will be faster and more capable. And with the Nvidea RSX gpu - jebus christ!
  

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• Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 14:49 CEST
  
  Well said. Anyone with an objective opinion would realize that te X-box has been ahead of the curve on technology since day 1. The X-box is the only console to support wide screen play and 5.1 surround sound. and the tech specs are far and away better than PS2 more memory, processor, disk space, and a better video card.
  

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• Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 14:58 CEST
  
  M$ doesn't even have a working model of this "amazing" console/DVR/Media PC with another brand.
  
  All the demos at E3 were running on Apple G5 computers NOT working models of the XBox360 for Pete's sake.
  http://www.talksudbury.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=381&st=0&#entry1478
  
  I find it really hard to believe that M$ is really that close to shipping a product yet they have not working model of it. I call bullshit!
  
  All the power in the world won't make a fiddler's difference if the games aren't fun to play.
  
  Another version of the same GAME (Halo) is NOT a sustainable model and this XBox is sure to hemmorage as much or more cash then the original which to date has lost over $21 BILLION - that's BILLIONS dude! SONY and Nintendo MAKE money of their systems.
  
  M$ has managed to remain in the game business only because of its OS and wordprocessing monpolies. Any other vendor would have folded long ago!
  
  Live and other pay to play online services will NOT stand the test of time and no amount of hardware improvement will save this. M$ is desparately trying to find a monthly subscription model that's sustainable and similar to their Windows and Office LOCK-IN licensing for the gaming world.
  
  That is in fact why M$ has added music/video recording and playback to this gen console. M$ and SONY are definitely fighting for the livingroom first and the gamer second.
  
  It remains to be seen which will win the day. But just think of all the other multi-function devices out there today and ask yourself, how many things can these things do at once.
  
  Remember the Dreamcast. Lots of power hit the market before it imploded.
  
  Sorry but I've had M$ in my computer room and I DO NOT want them in my livingroom thank you!
  

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  • Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 15:11 CEST
    
    XBOX 360 IS superior to the PS3 ...unless the PS3 gets changed between now and shiping time. The boxes that are sent out now are LESS than what the XBO 360 will ship with. The boxes sent out now are for developers only. DirectX is a ABSTRACTION layer. That means it doesnt matter what hardware it is on it will run the software the same. Go educate yourselfs. http://www.microsoft.com/xna/. The XBOX 360 is superior because they had CUSTOM chips made on the ATI to make its shader processing part RAM and part shader stack. Look up ATIs patent. Microsoft also worked with IBM to make CUSTOM PowerPC chips. These are NOT the same chips in MACs hehehe. These IBM chips have custom vertices processor chips added to allow the PowerPC chips offload triandle calculations. Hell the PowerPC chips themselves (with 6 hardward threads! and 1MB Cache!!) will hardly be used for graphics at all ...unlike the PS3 cell chip which must be used to help out the NVidia graphics chips .... MOST people will not have 1080p HDTVs for a LONG time and so PS3s ability to use its 2 teraflops to acheive that high definition is moot. From 1080i on down the XBOX 360 is going to be FASTER... hell we have not even talked about XBOX 360s 256 GB/s memory bandwidth compared to PS3s 25.6GB/s memory bandwidth. This combined with the 1MB cache on EACH processor will make things fly no matter how hard the developer push the software... PS3 developers will have to watch what they do or the PS3 will s sh shu shutter....
    
    

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  • Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 18:20 CEST
    
    Another version of the same GAME (Halo) is NOT a sustainable model and this XBox is sure to hemmorage as much or more cash then the original which to date has lost over $21 BILLION - that's BILLIONS dude! SONY and Nintendo MAKE money of their systems.
    
    LOL I love how people make this stuff up as they go. Where exactly did you get your facts from for this 21billion loss? www.antimicrosoft.com?
    
    If you do a quick google search you can see that last quarter xbox turned a profit because of Halo2 and other great games. As for this $21 billion microsoft could have put an xbox in every home in the united states as a gift.
    

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  • Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 21:43 CEST
    
    I'm sorry but you are COMPLETELY wrong in just about everything you say. No console makes money, they make money off the games not off the hardware.
    
    Also, Sony didn't have a working model of their game system either yet they showed game play (I wonder how they did that). At least the power button actually works on the 360 unlike on the George Forem..... I mean PS3.
    
    Live will stand the test of time because it is the best online service and its even going to provide free service for cheap losers like you.
    
    On top of that Sony even tried to sell prerendered graphics as actual game play. I'm sorry but that is the lamest thing I have ever heard. Of course they pulled the same crap before the release of the PS2, promising better graphics and not stepping up.
    
    Grow up and get a life.
    

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• Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 15:17 CEST
  
  First of all the Xbox 360 is currently just a paper spec. So to say that paper is faster than anything that most business can afford is just plain ignorant. In addition by the time the 360 is released dual core processors are going to be in the mainstream; and even though you cant compare a specialized cpu like the one in the Xbox 360 to a x86 architecture and get a true comparison the dual core CPU's will be more powerful. NVIDIA and ATI will have new GPU's available as well that will be comparable to what is in the Xbox 360. Back to what companies can afford, I don't know who you have worked for, but most companies do have machines more powerful than the Xbox 360 today. Most sql server setups have more overall processing power then the 360 will have. I think the 360 is just a desperate attempt by Microsoft to take the market. They will dump a ton of cash into it to try to make it succeed. Maybe one day they will finally brute force the market but not without great loss and certainly not with the XBOX 360. It is like its name just a marketing ploy.
  

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  • Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 15:36 CEST
    
    The game console I'm waiting for (and which XBOX should have been) is the console that plays the PC compatible games that are already out there.
    
    There are more PC games than there are anything, but the console markets are to greedy to take advantage of it. Home computers play titles belonging to Nintendo, Xbox, & Playstation (etc). XBOX was certainly powerful enough to adapt to PC gaming, but it failed by constructing it's own games.
    
    I see companies like Alienware taking advantage of this idea in the future. They'll dominate the games market and "then" start creating their own games.
    
    

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  • Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 15:43 CEST
    
    Plain ignorant huh? Most businesses have SQL servers running 64 bit Quad processor SQL servers? Maybe huge corporations, and even if it is a huge corporation they probably still are not running 64 bit processors except on a few of their most important servers. Remember, you have to jump from dual to quad, so there is not apple to apple comparison for a 3 core processor. A server in that class would cost a minimum of $50,000 installed once you took into consideration all the costs involved. By the way, that price point is for a processor running at half the clock speed of the Xbox 360. That puts it out of the price range of almost all small businesses, most medium size businesses and into consideration for large businesses assuming that their particular application is not bottle necked by other considerations such as drive I/O.
    
    Ignorant huh. Also, if we can't assume that the Xbox 360 will be released as announced how can we have a rational discussion. How about this, I don't think PS3 will have what they said it would have. My proof, same as yours, because I said so.
    

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• Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 15:20 CEST
  
  i currently agree that the current ps2 hardware is weaker than the xbox hardware, but i think that it depends on how the software is used. I think that the xbox 360 does not have enough power to compete with the Ps3 in terms of hardware. The 360 does have g5 cpus but the ps3 has the new cell chips, which is similar to an AMD 64. It also has blu-ray, which can hold up to 100GBs.
  

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• Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 15:47 CEST
  
  the xbox has a regular Pentium3 733..
  the PS2 has a RISC based IBM 390mhz chip.. it DOES beat the Xbox...
  Intel vs. IBM chips? IBM wins.
  BUT...
  the Gamecube has a ~500mhz IBM chip, and it blows both systems away..
  

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  • Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 16:22 CEST
    
    "Gamecube has a ~500mhz IBM chip, and it blows both systems away.."
    
    Anyone who says this is by default a moron.
    

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• Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 15:53 CEST
  
  Hardware is immaterial. If one will look back we all saw PS1 knock the hell out of both Saturn and N64 both which were technically more powerful machines. Games will tell. (Go SNES!)
  

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  • Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 16:29 CEST
    
    I would like to reiterate what one person in this thread has already pointed out in order to properly set straight the person who started this thread. The xbox 360 is basically Apple's G5 PowerPC Tower. The tech spec's are the same, the processor is the same (both developed by IBM) and even some of the GUI features are the same. THEY PUT IN A FREAKING DASHBOARD FOR CHRIST SAKE.
    For those of you who don’t know what this is, it’s a semi-translucent window that can be pulled up by the touch of a button. The window is filled with little programs or links to other programs on a computer. The first ever commercial use of this is on Apple's new OS called 'Tiger'.Microsoft has created something almost identical on the new xbox: to get to the different features (xbox live, game play, chat, music) on your xbox 360, you click the 'halo of light' or 'x' button on the controller and it brings up a dashboard with little controls and links to the different aspects of the system.
    They ripped Apple off in the software and in the hardware. You dont need all this power and all those features to play good games, you FIRST need the good game. If you want all these features and all that speed buy one of Apple's G5 Towers, if you want a gaming console that has some good games written for it get the new nintendo; you'll be able to download games from their library full of some of the greatest games ever created over the last twenty years. (not to mention that you should not be spending 500 dollars on a gaming console, and nintendo's will be cheaper the the ps2 or the xbox)
    

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    • Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 18:30 CEST
      
      UM xbox 360 has 3 of those chips.
      

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• Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 20:07 CEST
  
  I totolly agree.
  Anyway no one is really sure how fast the cell processer is going to be. You cannot really tell from a demo.
  

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• Reply by Anonymous on Friday, May 27 2005 @ 5:25 CEST
  
  I am glad to read a blog entry about the next gen systems that not just "go team go" I hope to own all three systems just as I own all three current systems and as I would like to own all past systems as for the next gen My first will be sony because I love my ps my ps2 and psp
  

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• Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 15:07 CEST
  
  I just hope there are no service packs for the XBOX. :P
  

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• Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 15:40 CEST
  
  I actually agree with someone. It seems from all the info that I have read that the ps3 will not have the raw processing power to live up to what they claim. Essentually the PS3 will be able to show some mind-blowing graphics, however it will not be able to handle mind-blowing gameplay. Just forget about 50 players online in a shooter with a PS3, or having hundreds of enemies on the field of battle. expect 2 enemies who can smile realisticly.
  

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• Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 15:47 CEST
  
  Xbox 360 is not superior to the PS3. You're saying it doesn't matter what hardware is in it because Direct X is an "ABSTRACTION" layer. Well my computer now has the same version of Direct X as my old computer, but my new one gets about 10 times the frame rate. Now tell me hardware doesn't matter. Ha! I do agree with you on the memory bandwidth, though. The Xbox 360 will have a slight edge here, but I doubt it will come through in actual performance, as 25.6GB/sec is faster than the processor can process anyways. So what if most people don't have 1080i HDTV's now, what about in the future, like next year when the PS3 comes out? Or people like me that already have 1080i HDTV's. Xbox 360 does the lowest HDTV res, 480. That's just weak in my book. Plus the PS3 has dual monitors, which gives it lots of cool possibilities. Also, the PS3 does DTS surround sound, which is slightly superior to the Xbox 360's plain old Dolby Digital. Sounds like the Xbox 360 will have the same sound chip as the first Xbox while the PS3 has definitely upgraded over the PS2 in the sound category. Finally, DTS mode will be used on my 6 year old receiver.
  

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• Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 15:51 CEST
  
  Computer: $1,500
  Internet connection: $29.95 / month
  Hiring a dork: $8/hour
  Astroturfing your competition: priceless
  

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• Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 16:05 CEST
  
  Caps do not a good argument make ~ Yoda.
  

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• Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 16:51 CEST
  
  Dude you obviously no nothing about cell and the RSX you say that the 360 has a custom CPU from IBM, that is true but the Cell processor is a JOINT PROJECT between SONY, TOSHIBA, and (omg) I..B..M.. And the Cell has 9 processing cores one is a heavily modified PowerPC( nothing like the Mac's) and 8 vector processing units. and ALL of the 9 cores can handle two threads at a time soooo. thats 18 possible instructions per cycle and from your pst i assume you know thats more than double of what the 360's cpu can do. Also its very true that many people dont have 1080p but many people also dont have 1080i, its future application. But you are very wrong to say that it'll be years before we see them, I work at a major consumer electronics chain and I see HDMI connections on most LCD, Plasma, and other HD tv's so were maybe another year or two to full market take over (1080p HD TV's) Oh and the Cell doesnt help out the RSX, It's a symiotic relationship the both work dynamicly on a task much like the 360 except the main processor, Cell, has the ability or rather the processing power to handle Physics, AI, Sound, HD content other than Games (video chat), the System OS, Broadband Network Traffic, and work with the RSX on the gaming side. All at the same time. and compared to the PowerPC in the 360, the cell has about 2.3 MB of on-chip Ram, thats split up between the PowerPC cores' 512KB cache, and the 8 Vector processores' 256KB of SRAM Each. And by-the-way the 360's processor only shares a 512KB cache between the tree cores. And that 256 GB/s you noted for the 360 is ONLY on the ATI's 10 MB of ERAM not the overall system the system has a memory bandwith of 25.6GB/s due to the GDDR3 Ram look at the specs relaesed by Microsoft themselves. And finally more proof the PS3 is superior in terms of processing power, the Cell (i stress the cell featured in the PS3, there are many versions of the Cell it was orginally manufatured at 4.6 Ghz but because of heat and power consumption they, Sony, had to reduce the speed to 3.2 Ghz.) can perform 218 GFLOPS while the PowerPC in the 360 has a max of 115 GFLOPS. And in your post you failed to mention the the overall sytem performance of the 360 ( again info released by Microsoft) is 1 TFLOPS. But even the RSX in the PS3 can perform 1.8 TFLOPS, its funny how the PS3's GPU is more powerful than the overall processing capabilities of the 360. Look at the official specs of the 360 and PS3 and think about the post you just made.
  

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  • Reply by Anonymous on Thursday, May 26 2005 @ 17:00 CEST
    
    if any of you people had anything better to do than sit in your parents basements masturbating to your dad's old movie stash, first of all you would POST YOUR NAME if you're so damned confident that what you are saying is the absolute truth.
    Secondly, you would post some links to actual facts when it comes to your numbers. because i can see that atleast half of everyones numbers are pulled directly out of their asses. Argue all you want, but just remember, noone is giving you that wasted back at the end of the day. 95% of you are clearly standing behind one company you and posts are littered with Biased Bullshit! So spend a little time debating something realistic that goes beyound name calling.
    

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• Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 16:36 CEST
  
  I'm not buying for stupid games to make them good if I pay Microsoft a monthly fee for Xbox Live is just a stupid proposition why then the game themselves are not free. I either pay for the game or for the service but not for both. Why they don't have a service like the Nintendo Revolution will have FREE access once you buy the game.
  

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  • Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 16:51 CEST
    
    Again... you obviously have not played Xbox Live, don't knock the service with stupid ass reply's until you've tried it. If you're only worried about playing through single player modes of games, or multiplayer games with your friends in the same rooms, and you don't care about being able to play multiplayer games instantly at any time of the day with anyone in the world, then I guess Xbox Live isn't worth the bank breaking $5/month to you. Of course, this isn't even bringing into account the downloadable content. Oh... Nintendo hasn't said anything concrete about their online service other than that you will be able to download the games that we all beat 15 years ago for free.... cool feature yes, but not even in the same realm as what Xbox Live offers you.
    

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• Reply by Anonymous on Thursday, May 26 2005 @ 2:02 CEST
  
  Not true. Well xbox live dose blow playstation2 online away, but Sony probably saw that and is going to make a much better online gamming system.. PS3
  

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• Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 16:24 CEST
  
  I bought a 1080 I HDTV big screen last year. Guess what im not upgrading again till the thing is ancient so 1080p means jack to me and most people who already have 1080i.
  

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• Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 16:38 CEST
  
  you are a ***** dickhead you twitch fps mother***** microsoft suucks when sony come into power with the ps3 they will have microsoft sucking their dick and you to
  

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• Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 16:38 CEST
  
  you are a ***** dickhead you twitch fps mother***** microsoft suucks when sony come into power with the ps3 they will have microsoft sucking their dick and you to
  

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  • Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 16:43 CEST
    
    rabid fanboy number twenty five.
    

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• Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 16:42 CEST
  
  Good lord. ... So much critical speculation with so little information out there to do the speculation. ... Let's just pray for the next gen to be as inexpensive as possible and no $60 games, okay? ... I'm sure we can all settle on that. ... As which console is going to be the 'best' ... most of you seem to be so overwhelmed with whatever fanboy bias you claim, be it sony, nintendo, microsoft, etc, that no matter what specs these systems crank you... you're going to find one reason or another to bash the other one. ... Just settle and ***** about things that really matter, at this point. ...
  

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• Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 16:54 CEST
  
  It is too early to comment on anything. PS3 is promoted as a computer dedicated for Entertainment unlike XBox 360. I will keep my fingers crossed until I try them both. PS2 is much better than XBox itself but I did not like PSP though.
  

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• Reply by Anonymous on Thursday, May 26 2005 @ 1:04 CEST
  
  If u truly belive in that crap you are the idiot
  How come microsoft did not say that in the begining not after seing how extremely powerfull the PS3 is so dont trust evry litle thing you see on the internet ok...
  please dont embaras yourself like this
  

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• Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 16:53 CEST
  
  Why buy both systems? 90% (just a guess there) of games are released for all systems, buying both systems seems a little pointless. Just buy a system and stop knocking all the other ones. Obviously no matter what system you buy you're gonna be happy with it.
  

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• Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 17:07 CEST
  
  Get a fkin life and a bird.
  

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  • Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 17:12 CEST
    
    I do have a life as a software engineer for a company developing applications for next-gen computer sysytems working at the major concumer electronics chain is a part-time job
    

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  • Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 17:16 CEST
    
    I do have a life as a software engineer for a company developing applications for next-gen computer sysytems working at the major concumer electronics chain is a part-time job
    

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    • Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 17:21 CEST
      
      And yet you can't spell for crap. Yeah....right.
      

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  • Reply by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 17:39 CEST
    
    I do have a life as a software engineer for a company developing applications for next-gen computer sysytems working at the major concumer electronics chain is a part-time job
    

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• Reply by Anonymous on Thursday, May 26 2005 @ 2:31 CEST
  
  I'm doubtful on the supposed 1/3 Xbox 360.. That could easily be some BS. Supposedly the two GPU's of PS3 and Xbox may be close in performance but they are different types and can't be compared straight through numbers. Microsoft has an advantage with all their dam* money to buy companies over but I have am hoping for a PS3. Xbox should be ok but truly I don't think Live will save them. PS3 will have a network and perhaps an even better one.. it's possible, right? All the people that speak for Microsoft (the officials and reps.) seem very cocky and almost unprofessional saying that Xbox will dominate which is kind of irrational. BTW anyone see that MotorStorm game for PS3...? looks sweet :). Even though some may disagree, PS2 titles can easily compete with Xbox ones in terms of graphics.. Look at Killzone, that looked pretty good, and GT4. It's harder to program for is one good reason games prob dont look as good but the professionals know how to do it right. PS3 is going to have disc storage so much higher then Xbox, allowing for more maps on games and such : ). I also think it's funny that some games coming out on Xbox 360 are coming out on Xbox and Ps2 as well... Only a small amount of PS3 games will be on PS2 too. It's like Xbox will be out before people are done with the current generation of games which is what analysts were saying. Supposedly the true next-gen is mid-2006ish (basically when PS3 comes out) so mwa ha ha. (however, hopefully all consoles will be decent, just to be nice to other system fans but I'm waiting for my Ps3)
  

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• Reply by Anonymous on Thursday, May 26 2005 @ 2:55 CEST
  
  Here's a comparison of things:
  
  
  CPU
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  Xbox 360: 3 @ 3.2 GHz each
  PS3: 7 @ 3.2GHz each
  Obvious Winner: PS3
  
  Xbox 360: VMX-128 vector unit per core; three total
  PS3: 1 VMX vector unit per core; seven total
  Obvious Winner: PS3
  
  Xbox 360: 1 MB L2 cache
  PS3: 512KB L2 cache
  Preliminary Winner: Xbox 360
  
  
  CPU Game Math Performance
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  Xbox 360: 9 billion dot product operations per second
  PS3: 51 billion dot products per second
  Obvious Winner: PS3
  
  
  Shader Performance
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  Xbox 360: 48 billion shader operations per second
  PS3: 100 billion shader operations
  Obvious Winner: PS3
  
  
  Graphic Card Clock Speed
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  Xbox 360: 500MHz
  PS3: 550MHz
  Preliminary Winner: PS3
  
  
  Graphic Card Transitor Count
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  Xbox 360: 332 million transistors (total from 2 pieces of graphics hardware,
  232+100)
  PS3: 300 million transistors
  Preliminary Winner: Xbox 360 (very ify on this one, since it uses 2 hardware components to get 32 million more tranistors, I suspect PS3 may be better).
  
  Memory
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  Xbox 360: 512 MB of 700 MHz GDDR3 RAM
  PS3: 256MB XDR main RAM at 3.2GHz, and 256MB of GDDR VRAM at 700MHz
  Preliminary Winner: PS3
  
  Xbox 360: 22.4 GB/s memory interface bus bandwidth
  PS3: Main RAM 25.6GB/s
  Preliminary Winner: PS3
  
  
  Overall System Floating-Point Performance
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  Xbox 360: 1 teraflop
  PS3: 2 teraflops
  Obvious Winner: PS3
  
  
  Drive
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  Xbox 360: 12x dual-layer DVD-ROM (CDR's to DVD's). Most likely HD-DVD playable.
  PS3: Blu-ray (CDR's to DVD's to Blu-Ray DVD's). Most likely HD-DVD playable.
  Preliminary Winner: PS3
  
  
  Harddrive (not enough info given)
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  Xbox 360: 20 gigs
  PS3: No HDD, expandable slot only (for now) ??????
  Preliminary Winner: Xbox 360
  
  
  Wireless Controllers Max Number
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  Xbox 360: 4
  PS3: 7
  Preliminary Winner: PS3 (they don't say how many controllers each console comes with)
  
  
  USB 2.0 Slots
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  Xbox 360: 3
  PS3: 4
  Preliminary Winner: PS3
  
  
  Memory Stick Slots
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  Xbox 360: 2
  PS3: 3
  Preliminary Winner: PS3
  
  
  Network
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  Xbox 360: 802.11a, 802.11b, and 802.11g
  PS3: 802.11b, 802.11g
  Preliminary Winner: Xbox 360
  
  
  High Definition
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  Xbox 360: 16:9, 720p, and 1080i (all their games MUST meet this)
  PS3: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p. Plus 2 HD-DVD outs that can show 2 different screen pictures.
  Preliminary Winner: PS3
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Summary: PS3 wins every category except: Cache size, Number of tranistors on the Graphics Components, Hard Disk Drive and it does not support 802.11a.
  
  I believe cache was discussed in an earlier which would shed more light on this topic.
  
  
  Overall PS3 is way, way more powerful. More than twice the CPU processing power, graphics capabilities is far more as well. It has the ability to do way more Physics and AI intensive code.
  
  People who claim Xbox 360 is just a little bit slower are completely wrong.
  
  The person who made this post:
  
  by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25 2005 @ 16:56:54 CEST
  
  Is by far the most accurate and knowledgeable.
  
  
  

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• Reply by Anonymous on Thursday, May 26 2005 @ 12:25 CEST
  
  get out more
  

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• Reply by Anonymous on Friday, May 27 2005 @ 12:39 CEST
  
  you are all idiots... Xbox360 is coming out nearly 6 months before PSIII & NIntendo, if not more... therefore Sony & Nintendo's consoles aren't really direct competition with the New Xbox, they SHOULD be better specs at the rate technology evolves. As long as Microsoft keeps ahead of "the game"(indeed, it's innovation is staggeringly superior to the competition) and has a shitload of GREAT games (this area you may worry about), it could easily STOMP the other consoles.
  

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  • Reply by Anonymous on Saturday, May 28 2005 @ 19:27 CEST
    
    You mean coming out early like Sega Saturn and Sega Dreamcast?
    
    Coming out early means very little in the long run. PS1 and PS2 ended those previously mentioned consoles. If you think 6 months is going to make Xbox 360 a console success across the world you're seriously mistaken. As for games, Sony has always had the most diverse and better library of games for it's consoles.
    
    We all know the reason why Xbox (Xbox 1) was a success in North America (only place it was somewhat a success) was due to the fact it had better hardware. The gaming titles except a few exclusives like buying out the company that made Halo to have Halo an exclusive does not compete with the range of PS2 titles out there. Basically you had Xbox with the same titles as other consoles except it's hardware allowed for better looking games, now with Xbox 360 you have an inferior console machine (hardware wise).
    
    Sony for over a decade has had the best, diverse and largest library of gaming titles for it's consoles (stretching back from PS1 to PS2). And this will not end with PS3.
    
    So in the next-gen consoles we see Sony matching or exceeding MS hardware wise on almost every single component. And for raw processing and graphic processing it exceeds them (2 of the most important components for a console machine). It's difficult to say that Xbox 360 will have a better library of games when Sony on their previous consoles has clearly shown it does. Both will have exclusive titles that people will want to play
    from Sony's Metal Gear, Grand Theft, Gran Turismo, some FF, KillZone, etc
    to MS's: Halo, Gears of War, etc.
    
    
    
    
    "it's innovation is staggeringly superior to the competition"
    
    Not really. All it did for Xbox was take what it knows, Computer orienteted hardware and stick it in a box and lost billions of dollars. The other console companies were already going to use computer components for their next console, MS just made Xbox in between the cycle of their current and upcoming console.
    
    Unfortunately the case your present for Xbox 360 is really weak.
    

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• Reply by Anonymous on Friday, March 03 2006 @ 18:52 CET
  
  I think what everyone is forgetting is that these are just game systems. Their not gonna solve world hunger or bring world peace. Get over yourselves and argue about something important! At the end of the day we all know that its not what you got, its what you do with it that counts. XBOX 360 will be easier for programmers to use to make great games. PS 3 is far far more difficult to program for but does offer more power to any developer that can actually use it. Oh and 1080p is to expensive for developers and DVD film companies to use. Thats why its years away.
  

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